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PluginIndia Electric Vehicles

The ghosts of EVs past:

20/2/2014

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By Tarun Mehta
“The Ghost of Christmas Past is the first of the three spirits to haunt Ebenezer Scrooge. The spirit shows Scrooge scenes from his past that occurred on or around Christmas, in order to demonstrate to him the necessity of changing his ways, as well as to show the reader how Scrooge came to be a bitter, cold-hearted miser.” - Wikipedia
The Ghost of EVs Past is the combination of the three problems that haunt an EV owner in India today. The article will show the experience of past and current EV owners that occurred in or around the IIT Madras campus, in order to demonstrate the necessity of changing the ways EVs should be designed and sold in India.
Side note: luckily, the EV owners haven’t come about to become a bitter, cold-hearted and miser group!
Brief: as an entrepreneur interested in the EV domain, I have spent the last few months meeting and talking to a host of electric vehicle owners. At Ather originally we thought that the electric scooter market is big and interesting and thus, we should make kick-ass batteries for these guys. In time we realized that the scooters themselves are no great shakes either – which has led us to now completely re-design and re-engineer electric scooters for the Indian market. Expect us to showcase the same by March end! 
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Case Studies
Dr. Sivakumar bought a BSA low-power electric scooter (250W) a few years back. He was in fact the ninth customer to own a BSA scooter and the company even acknowledged the same. He bought the scooter because he is a self-proclaimed early adopter and loves to try new technologies. The silent ride of an electric scooter, running without fumes was incentive enough for him to buy one. He in fact became one of the earliest and most prominent evangelists for these electric scooters in the IIT Madras campus.

Fast forward 3 years – he’s disappointed, to put it mildly.
He’s had his batteries changed three times in as many years. His charger has been replaced twice. The poor lead-acid batteries that he replaces every time typically last him between 6 to 12 months before they start ‘dying’ – a term that means that their capacity starts going down. It’s not unnatural for a battery, every battery loses its capacity over time. However lead acid batteries lose them at an alarming rate in an electric vehicle. He’s not had a battery that’s lasted him for more than 15 months yet. By the end of the life these batteries are delivering a range of 10-15 kms per charge. Which is almost an 80% reduction over the original range.
Batteries are not his only problem. The scooters themselves turned out to be a big dud.
When he bought them, he felt a top speed of 25 kmph in the IIT Madras campus would be acceptable. What he had not counted on was his experience while taking it outside the campus area. It is practically impossible to drive these vehicles on a city-road. It’s downright dangerous. Eventually, he had his traction motor also changed in frustration.

The build and ride quality of these bikes also left a lot to be desired. Within no time of purchase, the cheap Chinese manufactured plastic body panels starting dropping down. Components started rusting and the entire vehicle looks to have aged years before its time. The suspension seems to have been an after-thought and barely functions. Dr. Sivakumar believes that the company does not seem to have spent a lot of time in actually engineering this vehicle. It looks like a retro-fit version of a cheap petrol scooter-turned-electric. Nobody seems to have paid attention to the changed mass distribution and driver ergonomics in designing these.
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This scooter's steering column broke in 6 months - without an accident. It literally just went into plastic deformation and the entire front wheel started falling apart as I was driving!
Dr. Sivakumar's problems are echoed by several others on campus.

Dr. P. Sriram, Dean of Administration at IIT Madras, bought an electric scooter a few years back. He owns a car and has another petrol scooter also. He bought this scooter purely because it was a greener alternative to his petrol vehicles and was remarkably quieter – something he prefers in the campus environment. His biggest issues are with the battery life, ride quality and power. He wants to have a boost mode on his vehicle which can allow him to have a high acceleration, even though the top speed may be limited.

Dr. Sudarsan of the Humanities department bought an electric scooter because he wanted a non-polluting vehicle. He has been profoundly disappointed by what he says is the ‘tendency of Indian companies to short-change Indian customers’. Within 15 months his batteries completely died on him and there were no vendors left out there who could replace his batteries. It took months, and some help from the author, for him to finally reach out to a competitor’s vendor to replace his battery pack and get the vehicle started again. He describes the ride quality of his scooter as ‘worse than that of a cycle’.

Mr. Prateek Hegde owns a Mahindra Reva (with lead acid battery). He bought an electric vehicle because he wanted to ‘cause minimum pollution at least inside the city’ and because he wanted a ‘small compact city car that handles well’. His experience was mixed. While the vehicle delivered on the promise of being a small and compact car, it made him regret his decision owning to the poor battery life and build quality.

“The hatch came apart within weeks of purchase. And then Reva shut down their service center in Chennai making it immeasurably hard to get the car serviced”. Additionally, after four years and 18,000 kms his lead-acid batteries died on him. The cost of replacement? An astronomical 90,000 rupees. This was a deal-killer. He finally junked his car, which to this day is idling in his garage – a fate shared by EVs all over the country.

What went wrong with previous generation EVs?
I have written about only four of the people here but the IIT campus is full of similar cases. I have personally met dozens of EV owners and the experience of almost every single of them has been remarkably similar. How did the larger companies fail to see these problems then? At Ather we believe that they were looking at the right market but had a terribly wrong product for it. I haven’t many, who, after a year of usage haven’t been disappointed by their electric vehicles in India [2]. The customers are begging for a better product. Are the problems so deep and hard to understand? Obviously not. 

It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out the biggest problems faced by these people:

  1. Batteries – lead acid batteries are an extremely bad choice for EV applications. The entire experience is ruined for the user owning to their extremely limited life and performance. They need to be replaced by a better alternative.

  2. Build and ride quality – in his interactions, the author hasn’t met anybody who was happy with their vehicle’s build or ride quality. Often, the suspensions were put in orientations so flawed that it made one wonder whether engineers were involved at any stage of the development of these vehicles [3]. Another point that came about from these interactions: these aren’t locally made or designed vehicles. These are (with some noteworthy exceptions like the Mahindra Reva) Chinese knocked-down units imported and assembled in India. These vehicles were designed to have a shelf-life of 3-4 years and were designed for the factory workers in China. No doubt, it makes a lot of sense for a blue-collar worker in one of the innumerable factories in China to buy these vehicles at dirt-cheap prices (locally these vehicles sell for as low as 10,000 rupees). But for somebody in India, who can afford a Honda City and is purchasing these scooters purely because he’s excited about the technology or wants a greener solution for his mobility needs – they are a very, very bad idea.

  3. Performance – a top speed of 25 kmph does not cut it any longer. Such low speed vehicles make sense in the Chinese context, where there are mandated cycle lanes and these vehicles often get to share space there. But in the Indian context where these vehicles have to share road space with a Royal Enfield and an angry bus driver, it is downright suicidal to take them to road. Everybody, and I mean everybody, who’s driving will whiz pass you and you will be relegated to a small corner trying to hold on to yourself as you are stuck by sheer terror.
The Next Generation EVs will need to get things right
The coming generation of EVs will potentially be targeting the above problem head-on. Batteries, quality and performance – the three bane of electric vehicles today will eventually turn out to be the real USPs in the coming years [4].

Today, typically people automatically assume that an electric vehicle cannot deliver decent performance and is meant only for children or the elderly. This is an incorrect assessment of an electric drivetrain drawn from a set of poorly designed vehicles.

Electric vehicles have the capability to beat a petrol alternative on any conceivable parameter. Whether it be speed, or torque, or comfort, or overall weight, or space or even total cost of ownership – a smartly designed electric vehicle can better a petrol vehicle hands down. It just takes that extra design effort. Tesla Motors of California and Mission motorcycles have demonstrated the superiority of an electric drive. It’s only a matter of time before we have similar vehicles on Indian roads.
EV's are the future
Of course, it is not all bad news. The latest Auto Expo seems to have some exciting electric vehicles. Reva finally seems to be coming up with a car that actually looks neat. Some of the automakers finally seem to be realizing the limitations of lead-acid cells and are trying to make the transition to lithium ion. We ourselves are  working on a premium electric scooter.

However, most importantly, the customers aren’t lost yet. Despite getting ripped off with the last generation of EVs, these people are waiting for a better vehicle. They are more than happy to test ride our prototypes, give a ton of feedback, even buy one if we could only sell them right now! That, in the opinion of this author, is the holy grail of any business – customers. And this segment does not seem to have lost it’s yet.

In fact, if anything, it only seems to be discovering them now.
Tarun Mehta
Co-founder, Ather Energy
+91 9962 396 532
tarun@atherenergy.com

notes:
[1] some names have been changed on request.
[2] Of course, I have also met a few who felt that it is safer to ride on a slower vehicle rather than riding rashly on a faster vehicle. One must respect their beliefs, though I personally belief, that they are two mutually separate and hence solvable issues.
[3] One does hear of several innovative and isolated experiments where companies tried to bring the engineering in-house, but failed. The truth is, if you are going to build an exactly similar product (low speed, low quality) – there isn’t much sense in bringing the design or the manufacturing in-house. It’s cheaper and more sensible to do that in mass in China.
[4] I am obviously confident, that there will be many more changes than just the three highlighted ones. This is just to show that these are the three current challenges. Improving on these is mandatory.

10 Comments
Ramesh Krishnan
22/2/2014 05:09:58 am

He must have traveled 12.5 km each day for 4 years and it would have cost him Rs 62 each day. Traveling by petrol will cost Rs 80 per day and would it not be much more expencive if he adds the service/maintenance charges (two times at least).

Hatch falling off a production vehicle that sells even in the UK is a little hard to digest.

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Tarun Mehta
24/2/2014 01:36:52 pm

Hi Ramesh,

His vehicle was decommissioned for some time, so i think it would be safe to assume that he drove for more than 12.5 kms every day :). In fact, if I remember correct, he drove close to 30kms every day.

That still does not change the fact, as you very correctly pointed out, that the cost of replacement of the battery is still lesser than the cost of driving a petrol car. Then, why indeed is he unwilling to buy new batteries?

When he bought the Reva, he knew that he was making a compromise - multiple compromises indeed. The looks weren't something to talk about, the performance was poor than almost any other car, the build quality (even discounting the hatch) wasn't really top-notch. And despite this, the vehicle was as expensive as many petrol alternatives. He bought it because he did want a greener solution AND he hoped to have a hassle-free experience. If after a short time his batteries need to be replaced, all math goes out for a toss and the customer loses faith in EVs and their reliability.

I did a double check with the owner. The hatch was indeed faulty, a mistake that was in the entire production run. Reva later came up with a way to fix it. But, by then he had already lost the enthusiasm and the hope.

He was no longer an active evangelist.

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Johnson
22/2/2014 07:06:57 am

Hi Tarun good to see your post and the progress you guys are making. It is also good to involve the people to put forward their ideas and throughts.

My comments are as below:

Chinese bikes are supposed to be thrown away after 3 yrs use... just like most of their goods... its mostly use and throw...

Some other aspects:
1. Body of the bike - is made in consideration of a Chinese person who is usually 20% lighter in body weight and height than an Indian. Thus these bikes would be 20% more effective in South-East Asian countries due to their similar body weight and height... than in India...

2. Battery of the bike has complaint because for one it is developed as a use and throw battery. Secondly the charging habit directly influence it more than anything. People all over India especially Kerala depend and very conveniently use Deep Cycle Lead-Acid battery (same type used for cars) for decades in their Inverters. So Lead-Acid Battery TECHNOLOGY is not such a SERIOUS problem. The problem is in the quality construction of the Chinese battery.

So if people go in for a battery change they should use Indian ISO branded Batteries like SU-Kam who give 18 months warranty on their battery! See their site here:

http://www.su-kam.com/Power-Solution/Batteries-Trolleys/Lead-Acid-Battery.

What is true is that we can.... and surely... you guys can make better bikes that what is available as e-bikes. But we have to make sure that it is sturdy enough and has enough ground clearance to take on the unpaved village roads and fields. Remember 70% of Indians reside in rural areas (and 70% of a billion is not a small figure). Almost 50% of them would want to own a bike and an Ebike.

Also the EV is favors a Farmer more than a Civilian since many farmers are already switching to Solar Panels for their irrigation. These guys get 24hrs power to charge their EVs while the civilian in the City will have to depend entirely on the grid.

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Tarun Mehta
24/2/2014 01:43:36 pm

Hi Johnson,

Thanks for the comment. You understand the purpose of these vehicles very well. Also, it is true that the quality of the battery (even lead-acid) does make a difference.

However, note - the long lasting batteries that you are talking about (Su-Kam) those are not sealed lead acid. These batteries need electrolyte replacement making them unsuited for an EV application, esp. that in a scooter. There are other technical reasons too w.r.t to the current discharge capacity that make them unsuitable.

What can be readily used in an EV is sealed lead-acid type battery. These batteries do not need electrolyte replacement and do not vent any dangerous gases. However, their life (even from the best manufacturers) is very limited. That's why even the batteries from Exide do not last for more than 12-18 months.

Your point about targeting the rural population is very pertinent. I will try and expand that in a future article.

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